Copyright 2018 NPR. To see more, visit AILSA CHANG, HOST: To talk now a bit more about the outgoing VA secretary, Dr. David Shulkin, I'm joined now by Quil Lawrence. He covers veterans for NPR, and he was one of the people who spoke with Shulkin this morning. Hey, Quil. QUIL LAWRENCE, BYLINE: Hello, Ailsa. CHANG: So Dr. Shulkin had strong bipartisan support. He was able to get VA reform legislation to the president's desk. He had been a pretty productive member of the administration. How did he explain his sudden downfall? LAWRENCE: Well, he explained or he excused part of it. There was an inspector general report at the VA that came out slamming a trip that Shulkin took last year to Europe. It was an official trip, but Shulkin took his wife along. And the IG report said that he improperly paid for her travel and improperly received some tickets to Wimbledon on the trip. Now, Shulkin paid it all back. But he says that he was not allowed to explain publicly why this trip was not
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